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a doll, son of nora ephron and gave me a reason to reread his wonderful, beautiful piece. >> sam stein? >> i learned president obama can speak a little hebrew and is hip with the israeli youth apparently. >> very nice. >> i love it. >> what did you learn, mika? >> in a conversation on twit bert the retro wife -- >> talk about that for a minute. >> it's just lights up when i tweeted the segment we did yesterday with joanna coles, and on the front page of new york magazine. >> lisa miller is great. >> i will tell you what you learned. >> what? >> how do ask a question from little children in new jersey. take a look at the tape, joe, and take a cue. >> quick. to the point. >> anything else? >> got any weekend plans? >> yes. >> what are you doing? >> college hunting. >> oh. wow. >> i remember those days. >> for amelia? what about you, sam? you're getting out of college in

a year. >> yeah. i'm still at college. >> getting his application. >> i have girlfriends visiting from cleveland, ohio. >> part of rock 'n roll. >> you have a live chat. >> here's what i'm going to do. a live twitter chat right after the show at joe nbc. thank you so much for watching. have a great weekend. thank you for being patient all week. >> keep it short. >> thank you. we'll see you later. way too early. morning joe. now stick around. the fix is in. air jordan. the next leg of president obama's middle east tour takes him on a quick flight this morning to israel's next door neighbor. we'll go live to ahman for a preview. plus it's friday. so it's time to take a tally of all the tid bits on the 2016 scene that may seem small now but could be huge as the next fight for the white house unfolds. and a major traffic report of sorts seeks to shake up washington's wavering on funding

for roads, bridges, and more. we'll talk to the authors of a dismal report card. >> good morning from austin, texas. it is friday, march 22nd, 2013. this is the daily rundown! >> now back to you, chuck todd. >> thank you to the university of miami cheerleaders and of course sebastian. the canes play the university of pacific today and they are there at the university of texas. georgetown, where is your good morning chris soliza video? chuck todd is in the middle east with the president. he'll join us live in just a moment. president obama is preparing to head to jordan, the second to last stop on his middle east tour. before he left he spent the morning touring some of the powerful cultural landmarks. he laid wreaths at the grave of

yitzak rabin the israeli prime minister assassinated in 1995. president obama also visited the holocaust memorial joining president perez and prime minister netanyahu as well as secretary of state john kerry. he laid a wreath in the hall of remembrance then offered these thoughts. >> this accounting of horror is in the end a source of hope. for here we learn that we are never powerless. in our lives we always have choices. to seccumb to our worst instincts or to summon the better angels of our nature. >> the president made a quick trip to bethlehem to visit the church of the nativity with palestinian president mahmoud abbas and is now preparing to head to ahman, jordan. nbc's chuck todd traveled ahead of the president and joins me live now from there in ahman. chuck, i can only imagine the university of miami cheerleaders brought a smile to your face in

amman, jordan. >> good morning. that was a great surprise. we're inside by the way. if you look behind me you can see it's a little dusty out there. there's been heavy winds almost like a sandstorm out here. it's actually something that prevented the president from choppering to bethlehem. instead he had to motorcade there. it's that type of windy day here. i say that because we could have our own transmission problems. let me talk first about the speech or remarks the president gave. they were very important. >> you know, chuck -- go ahead. you're back. >> oh, okay. good. i want to play another bite that he said about the holocaust. take a listen. >> here on your ancient land let it be said for all the world to hear the state of israel does not exist because of the hole cust but with the survival of a strong jewish state of israel such a holocaust will never happen again.

>> and the president last night also made more remarks. i want to get to the speech in a minute. but he made some interesting remarks about the connections that jews have with african-americans. >> a story from slavery to salvation, of overcoming even the most overwhelming odds, is a message that's inspired the world. that includes jewish americans but also african-americans who have so often had to deal with their own challenges but with whom you have stood shoulder to shoulder. >> this has all been about president obama making personal connections with the israeli public, almost less important has been some of the one-on-one time he's had with some of these israeli leaders because the president has wanted to make sure the perception of him and of his administration is improved in the israeli public. now, as that speech, yesterday, that he gave to israeli youth, it has been incredibly well

received. all of the commentary in the hebrew press and english language press here in israel has been amazingly positive. take a listen, though, to what was somewhat of a tough love message to israelis. >> peace is necessary. i believe that. i believe that peace is the only path to true security. you can be -- you have the opportunity to be the generation that permanently secures the zionist dream. >> and he made it clear he still supports a two-state solution. >> i know there must be something exhausting about endless talks about talks and daily controversies and just the grinding status quo and i'm sure there is a temptation just to say, ah, enough. let me focus on my small corner of the world and my family and

my job and what i can control. but it's possible. neither occupation nor expulsion is the answer. just as israelis built a state in their homeland, palestinians have a right to be a free people in their own land. >> now the president is on his way here to amman to meet with king abdullah, perhaps america's most important arab ally in the region. chris, what's interesting here is sort of a preview of king abdullah's thinking. an incredible piece and interview done by jeffrey goldberg over at "the atlantic" a very long and exhaustive read but he had an extensive access to king abdullah. probably one of the more remarkable things the king said about the peace process was he believes this may be the final four years that there is to get a two-state solution.

he thinks perhaps after that time will run out meaning demographics could overtake any shot at getting a two-state solution. pretty important times here, chris. >> no question. chuck, glad the shot held up. thanks for weathering the sandstorm. >> you got it. all right. now it's time for our weekly look at 2016 moves. it seemed like all week somebody was talking explicitly about their ambitions. >> i know when you announced if you're running for president you'll do it here. you want to make that promise? absolutely. we didn't already announce it did we? >> 2014. again. check me in june. i'm going to make an announcement in june and then probably sometime later in the year about 2016. >> i need to do what i think is right in this moment. working in the bunlt i have a leadership position. i take it seriously. then i'll consider those things and i will give it serious consideration but i'm going to do that later on.

>> yes, that was rick perry the texas governor talking about running for president again. and after finishing first and second in the cpac shuffle, senators rand paul and marco rubio continued to jockey for the spotlight. paul threw his support mostly behind comprehensive immigration reform as he and rubio each did their best not to get ahead of each other on what the path to legalization might look like. [ speaking in foreign language ] i think the conversation needs to start by acknowledging that we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrant. >> we aren't going to deport 12 million people like rand paul said today or give blanket amnesty or a special pathway to citizenship. what i've never been for is a special pathway to citizenship. >> i'm simply saying you can get a work visa and get in the normal line. >> the idle republican party

announced rand paul will headline their annual fundraiser next month. rick santorum and wisconsin governor scott walker will also be in the hawkeye state in coming weeks. we also learned marco rubio's pac spent a hundred thousand dollars on campaign consultants just last month. new jersey governor chris christie says ohio senator rob portman's decision to support same sex marriage has not changed his view. christie said he is still undecided about a new jersey bill that would ban so-called gay conversion therapy saying, quote, philosophically on bills that restrict parents' ability to make decisions on how to care for their children, i'm generally a skeptic of those bills. now, there can always be exceptions to those rules. under pressure from democrats on thursday, christie said he personally opposes the practice but still refused to take a position on the bill. by the way, christie also dodged 2016 talk at a news conference at a new jersey elementary

school with some mini questioners. >> i'm a third grader at the elementary school. you've done a great job here in new jersey and i was wondering if you were thinking about running for president. >> do you work for msnbc? i'm not thinking about running for president right now, because i've got a job to do here and i've got an obligation to all these folks. you can't worry about fourth grade until you finish third grade. you know? and i can't worry about this until i do this job. >> great question by that little girl. meanwhile, former secretary of state hillary clinton's support for same sex marriage reaffirmed that the issue is a litmus test for any democrat considering a potential presidential run in 2016. clinton's florida poll numbers prove she can big foot almost any competition. the guy who wants to be that competition, vice president joe biden, showed how much he's chosen to own an issue that will

play well with the democratic base. but may prove tougher to defend in a general election. limits on guns. >> you know, it must be awful to lead a public office and concluding that even though you might believe you should take action that you can't take action because of a political consequence you face. what a heck of a way to make a living. >> nbc's senior political editor mark murray is here with more on this morning's first report. i know it's 2013. everyone says it's too early. golly. everything we just played there seems like it's not too early. one thing i was fascinated by and i thought that clip did it really well. it seems as though paul -- rand paul and marco rubio are sort of watching one another on immigration but on a lot of things to, particularly on marco rubio's end to make sure there isn't a lot of space between marco rubio and rand paul. am i over evaluating?

>> certainly rand paul has been in the spotlight a lot. he ended up getting the cpac straw poll. don't put a lot of stock in that but he still won it. he had his big filibuster a few weeks ago. >> right. >> then this big immigration speech. you are right. you are seeing this kind of dynamic between rand paul and marco rubio. both guys ended up winning in 2010. both under the tea party banner. both very young people, relatively. and people we're watching for 2016. >> i think marco rubio at least doesn't want a lot of space voting wise between where he is and where rand paul is going forward. >> but one thing rand paul has done is by supporting comprehensive immigration reform one way or the other he is wearing other tea party folks with him. >> that's powerful. >> it makes it very likely for passage. >> let's talk about iowa. rand paul was announced this week, may 10th. my wedding anniversary. i don't think that' why he did it. may 10th rand paul is going to speak at this sort of big fundraiser for the republican party in iowa. santorum is going to be there in april. scott walker will be there later

in may. rand paul in iowa, it would seem the chairman of the iowa republican party is a ron paul guy. it would seem as though rand paul is moving quickly in iowa to say, this is going to be my state. >> well, right. there is that, a lot of that machinery his father put in place. he finished third in iowa. a little disappointing third place for his father, ron paul. >> right. >> but there is that situation. of course, chris, we saw more than a thousand days ago before voting could take place in iowa. a very long time ago some people who aren't making moves right now could be the people we're watching come 2015 and 2016. >> let's talk about one person on the democratic side who isn't really making public moves but hillary clinton, who is the big force in this race if she decides to run, comes out and says, you know what? now i'm for same sex marriage. releases a video on the human rights campaign website, a five-minute video. very clinically explaining where she is on this issue. is that a must if she wanted to run for president to be on that side of the issue? >> it's not only a must. it was also a sign that she is laying the groundwork for at

least the 2016. we don't know if it is for sure or not. to me this was the biggest 2016 news of the week. if she didn't do this right before the big oral arguments before the supreme court, this shows you she and her husband at least are really thinking about it. >> she had to have this in order to preserve thinking about 2016. >> correct. >> mark murray, thank you. >> thax, chris. >> we are looking at live pictures here of the international airport in tel aviv where president obama's motorcade has just pulled up. there will be a short departure ceremony before airforce one takes off for jordan. but up next, it's budget busting. paul ryan's plan passes the house and the senate promptly rejects it. is there any hope of compromise? tomorrow is the anniversary of the president's health care law. what is going to happen to his brother's senate seat? we're following developing news out of the u.s. marine corps base in quantico, virginia as well where officials say a

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we want to balance the budget. they don't. we want to restrain spending. they want to spend more money. we offer modernization, reform, growth, and opportunity. they are clinging to the status

quo. more taxing, more spending, more borrowing. we owe the american people a responsible, balanced budget. that's what we are delivering today. and i urge support of this resolution. >> well, paul ryan's pitch worked. 221 house republicans backed his plan that seeks to slash almost $5 trillion in spending and balance the budget in ten years. senate democrats promptly voted the ryan plan down last night. with me now michigan democratic congressman sander levin the top dm on the ways and means committee. i know you've spoken out forcefully against the ryan budget. let me ask you this. where do we go? republican controlled house, democratic controlled senate. obviously the senate made very clear the ryan plan was not their vision for the future of budgeting in this country. where do we go? how do we resolve these differences on where to spend money and why? >> it is going to be very

difficult. the republican conference has really become radicalized. i was reading a clip from politico a few days ago that had republicans in georgia saying they had to be more conservative than the other, more radical than the other so the distance has really widened dramatically and it's hard to know how you deal with extremism. and the ryan budget, the rhetoric doesn't really balance. it has, for example, tax cuts from 39.6 to 25. it doesn't say how you would get there. it would produce a hole of 4 to 5 trillion dollars without any indication how you would fill it. so it is very, very difficult to see. we need to try. they are so extreme it doesn't provide a basis for compromise. >> let me ask you this. have you privately had conversations whether with republicans on the ways and means committee or republicans in the house generally that is at all encouraging?

private conversations that lead you to believe there is some wiggle room here or is that what they have said publicly no revenue, no tax increases is that what they're saying privately as well? that's what they're saying. it is really disturbing. there have been so few conversations. the gap is so wide even on ways and means. i've been there now for 26 years. this has been the worst in terms of sitting down and talking things over. apparently the republicans gather in a conference and what they do is to say, how do we pull together people who in some cases are very much on the extreme so they come out with a budget that really isn't balanced, that would essentially end medicare over time, would cut medicaid, the primary source of long-term care by over a half a trillion dollars. that makes it very difficult. we have to try, but the extremism that has captured the republicans in the house, i

think, creates a gap that's very difficult to bridge, unfortunately. >> before i let you go i do want to ask you a little bit on politics. i can't get away from it. your brother has announced he's retiring from the u.s. senate creating an open senate seat in michigan for the first time in a long time. are republicans maybing some noise about the possibility of picking that seat up? and a member of your delegation, gary peters, a democrat, seemed sort of the leading democratic candidate. how confident do you feel that is a seat you can keep and is gary peters going to be your candidate? >> not sure who will be the candidate. gary is a very strong figure. i think we'll keep it in part because the republican party in michigan has gone so far to the right it's not easy to find voters who i think will be attracted to that kind of extremism. so i'm confident. but we have a job to do in the congress. i heard your earlier reports about 2016.

he's got a job to do in 2013. >> a good point and much appreciated. i would note on the senate a republican has not won in michigan a senate seat since 1994 which i'm sure you well know, congressman. >> and it'll stay that way. thanks for having me. >> yes, sir. from the windy city to the motor city parents and community leaders are raising concerns that kids in their schools are bearing the brunt of the painful cost of cost cutting measures. in chicago, school officials have announced the closure of 54 schools mostly in low income minority neighborhoods. as the city copes with a billion dollar budget deficit. for students in detroit problems with the education system are being magnified by that community's economic troubles. if you look statewide a quarter of michigan children under 17 were living in poverty in 2011. compare that to detroit where the number is more than twice that much. it is 57%, folks. nearly two in three detroit

children 5 and under are below the poverty line. msnbc's correspondent joins us live from detroit where she'll cohost a summit on education today and a student town hall tomorrow. those numbers are frightening and daunting. >> they really are startling numbers. i've got my notebook with me because i'm going to school today, chris. it has a lot of people worried and concerned and working to change the dynamics of those numbers. that's what we'll be talking about here. many people are also concerned about the fact, the elephant in the room we can't dismiss that come monday the city of detroit will be under the auspices of an emergency financial manager. people should also know for the past four years detroit schools have been under emergency management and in the last two years they've started to see some good signs. not only in detroit but also across the state. test scores are up. achievement is up. they've been seeing attendance go up. but what does it mean when there's talk that a possible federal sequester is affect

go- the state of michigan and could mean something like 2300 low income kids throughout michigan in head start programs could be pushed out? everybody is talking about the importance of early childhood education and whether or not we can afford to have those children pushed out. we're going to spend a lot of time today talking about that. what impact that and other measures of finances have on educating children here in detroit and throughout the state of michigan. if you can join us, chris, we're going to be streaming this live on education nation.com. people can check us out and see what's happening here. maybe hopefully we'll even find out some things that they are doing positive here in detroit and in michigan that could help people across the country as well. >> and, rehema, one other quick thing, i know you're going to sit down with the republican governor of michigan, rick schneider. any indication -- i know he appointed an emergency manager in detroit. what has he said about education

since he came into office, elected in 2010, any indication of what he will do going forward? he is doing a lot. he has a program called great start and they're trying to work tremendously with early childhood education because again, everybody is really focused on understanding that what happens at the beginning can impact a person's entire life. so he's been doing a lot with that. he's also helped make certain that there's a removal of the cap on charter schools. so we are going to talk to him about that, how he as a governor can impact changes in education here. >> you know, i have a 4-year-old son. i've seen it in his life, how much school, preschool, early education makes a huge difference. thanks for shining the light on this. >> absolutely. >> now, much more "daily rundown" to come including the president's departure from tel aviv. but first, it's today's trivia question. who is the first u.s. house member to have a sibling serve simultaneously in the senate?

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american society of civil engineers gives the u.s. an overall d plus grade showing that america still needs some tutoring when it comes to improving infrastructure. with me now to talk about the latest infrastructure report card is the president of the afce greg d. loreto and msnbc news political analyst and former governor of pennsylvania and i would add former mayor of philadelphia ed rendell. governor rendell is now the cochair of building america's future, educational fund, a group that advocates for a stronger national effort in upgrading infrastructure. greg, i want to start with you. let's walk through this report card. we got four years ago a d. >> correct. >> now we have a d plus. progress in the right direction. let's look at a couple places since i'm a positive guy. i want to look at where we did okay. grades of b plus to b minus in solid waste and that was the best. we got an a nowhere. >> we got an a nowhere. we got a b minus in solid waste.

>> what does that tell us? >> well. >> again, president obama, american recovery and reinvestment act. this has been made a priority. >> what it tells us is those areas where we did get better grades we have made some investments in infrastructure. and that's the point of the report card. not just to get a better grade but actually make these investments and improve our economy. there is a direct link between investments and infrastructure and improvements in the economy. >> now, governor rendell, i want to -- you're a politician so you are able to deal with some of the rougher news. let's go where we got grades of c plus to c minus. rail, a big one. bridges really big. ports. public parks and rec. i know leslie noth will be sad about the c minus in parks and rec. big things. rail, bridges, and ports are three large scale, important things this country needs if we want to move, you know, and then look at d. dams d, energy d plus. aviation d. this worries me frankly. drinking water d.

roads d. this is humbling. tell me what you make of it. i'm interested in your take as a former politician, a recovering politician maybe. every politician says they want to invest in infrastructure. i feel like it's in every state of the union address ever and yet look at the grades greg's organization is giving us for it. >> well, the truth is every politician says it but they don't act upon it. interestingly, stimulus because of the tiger grants gave a lot of money to rail freight and rail went from a c minus to c plus the greatest improvement in the last five years on the report. president obama did invest in infrastructure. not enough. the afce estimates we need to spend $200 billion a year more in the next eight years to just get our infrastructure into fairly good shape. building america's future report came out two years ago and said the same thing. $200 million a year more and the omb certainly not a radical

organization said that $180 billion a year more would be justified by the economic and societal good that would come from that type of investment. look, politicians have to understand. there is a difference between investing and spending. when you invest you do things that have long-term value. as you pointed out, for the economy. ports, rail, airports. roads. those things are incredibly important for goods movement. you have to invest to keep growing. every business that grows successful, invests. we've got to do it. grover norquist be damned. >> governor, it seems i want to follow up with you. it seems like this is sort of a long-term pain argument, which is, okay. the bridges and the rail and the ports. they're not great but they're passing barely, some of them. passing at this point. but they won't be. how do you make that urgent to the population? as you well know, if the american public doesn't think it's urgent it is not likely a lot of politicians are going to

think it's urgent. >> it's interesting. politicians misread the american public as well. in the last election, chris, 70% of the transportation infrastructure referendums calling for more tolls, taxes, or borrowing, passed. even in 2010, 61% passed. in other recent elections 78% passed. when the voters know what they're spending their money on, in charleston a red state, charleston, south carolina, they raised their own sales tax by referendum to invest in the poor in charleston. they knew the port was essential to their economic growth. >> greg, i want to come back to you and talk -- i want to put that graphic back up -- i want to show, let's talk about solutions here. we talked about all the ds and cs. >> right. >> but you guys did lay out some possibilities. give me two or three. let's talk about things that you think are the most likely or that politicians should be paying the most attention to, can get done. >> right. well, we are some solutions -- we think the infrastructure investment is going to occur at

all levels -- local, state, federal, and private investment. we've seen that. we also think that americans have to commit to their infrastructure system and that they're tired of sitting in traffic every day. they're tired when the water line breaks. >> i'm tired of sitting in traffic every day. you got me. >> i got you. so, you know, there are a number of user investment fees right now. gas taxes. and we're seeing that around the united states where governors are taking a look at changes in their gas tax fees. >> governor, one other quick thing. when you talk about this, you said there is a difference between spending and investing. how do you do it at a time when we're still in tight budgetary situations in most of these states? how do you prioritize it and say, you know what? this is important. is it just an act sort of political will and political courage? do you think enough politicians are going to have that? well, it is. i mean, you prioritize by telling the american people, public safety, quality of life, economic development. and as you pointed out, chris,

you sit in traffic. because our roads are congested. since 1980 vehicles on the roads have increased by 105%. our lanes have increased by 4%. you waste more gas sitting in traffic than a five cent increase in the gas tax would cost you if you were an average driver. but we've got to get americans to think long term. this is a long-term investment. every one of the g-20 nations has made it in the last 15 years. it's time for america to do what we've always done. do big things. invest in our infrastructure. >> you'll always be the mayor of philadelphia to me, governor rendell. >> thanks. >> thanks for your time. greg, thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> check this out. a d plus is not good enough for us in this country. thanks. >> you bet. in other transportation news we've been telling you all hour that president obama is expected to leave tel aviv at any moment. well, we just learned the delay on the president's departure is that he's meeting with israeli prime minister netanyahu one more time before the short

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cease-fire a battle royale wrestling reference is already brewing over the next debt limit deadline. >> dollar for dollar is the plan. the president has been clear he's not going to address our entitlement crisis unless we're willing to raise taxes. i think the tax issue has been resolved. so at this point in time i don't know how to go forward. >> them's fighting words. them's fighting words. >> them's fighting words. let's bring in our friday gaggle who will not fight. matea gold and rising star reporter bob costa of "the national review" and cnbc. bob did pay me to say that. okay. let's start with you. i feel like it's crisis to crisis to crisis and in a way congress deserves and the white house deserves some level of credit in that we thought we might have a, after the fiscal cliff we might have a government

shutdown. we're not going to have that but it does feel like we're headed toward this sort of late spring, early summer debt ceiling showdown. am i wrong? then from a policy perspective, can the two sides meet? >> well, i think it's important to remember that we actually have had two and a half trillion dollars of deficit reduction agreed to already. and in all of the votes that they've taken so far we've had significant deficit reduction and both taxes but mostly in spending. and i would say, you know, it does feel like groundhog day because we've gone through two and a half years. great movie. not so great when it's congress. >> not fun when it's real. right. >> but we feel like we have this, i mean, how many times has speaker boehner said one to one? i know it's tiring but the idea that we're going to negotiate the debt limit? i mean, i think it's -- the president should refuse to negotiate on the debt limit. >> he has in the past. >> i think he should hold to that position now because i think the challenge for

republicans is that this whole debate has weighed them down as a party. their numbers get worse every time they go through the fights. not better. that's the challenge for them. >> you mentioned one to one. we played john boehner saying, you know, dollar for -- john boehner has been very clear saying president obama got his tax increases with fiscal cliff. now we're talking on the spending side. bob, ron fornier reported that he says house speaker john boehner says the house will not raise revenue. don't believe him. house republicans tell me they're open to exchanging entitlement reform for new taxes, 250 billion, 300 billion. i would say no one is better sourced in this world than you. does that jive with what you know? >> no. it is a very interesting report. one, i think republicans do realize they want to get entitlement reform done. the way to do that in divided government is agree to some form of revenue in the form of tax reform. >> not tax

reform. >> not tax increase. >> tax reform. the big problem for republicans heading into this debt limit fight are the house conservatives. they feel like they've given a rot on the fiscal cliff. are they really going to battle boehner. >> i want to fit this in. because joe biden, i thought was el kwents and interesting. this was with mayor bloomberg. let's play that clip. >> for all those who say that we shouldn't and can't ban assault weapons. for all those who say the politics is too hard, how can they say that? for all those who say we shouldn't or couldn't ban high capacity magazines, i just ask them one question. think about newtown. think about newtown. >> that's a stirring sort of message there from joe biden. the question i have, it doesn't seem like it's going to work and not just because of republican

opposition, it's because there are democrats who are up in 2014 in tough states that don't want to vote on the assault weapons ban. >> it was so interesting to hear him go there about the assault weapons ban because that is something that is something that is still an activist for those pushing for gun control. it's very telling that organizing for action, obama's nonprofit group has made its only focus to be on guns to be on background checks. >> you'll have other things, but out of the big three, it's not going to have high capacity clips and assault weapons ban. >> the public conversation about their is about a much broader range of issues. but on a legislative front it looks like it's getting to be a much narrower focus. >> you have huge support for assault weapons and it's not happening. in that's the one connection to newtown is high capacity magazines. >> but not in the senate bill.

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you are looking at live pictures there in tel aviv. where the red carpet has been -- i was going to say rolled, but it's a square. there will be a short departure ceremony before he heads to amman. let's bring back our gaggle. okay. let's talk quickly, let's start with you. let's talk quickly about this trip. it seems like certainly, the president's speech yesterday got a lot of publicity. did they get what they wanted out of this trip in. >> it's so fascinating that less than a year ago there were these conservative groups attacking the president on israel. and it's interesting to see this play out and underscore how much a second term can reset things. there's been barely a whisper of criticism here in the u.s. about his trip.

>> we are seeing the president in a little -- he is walking out there with benjamin netanyahu. got what he wanted or not. >> absolutely. and politics changes a lot. last year netanyahu was giving him a hard time. >> while we watch the president, shameless plug. >> shameless plug. happy birthday to my dad, tom costa. turned 62 today. >> the center for american progress issued a report, said $1.1 trillion would go to the american academy with comprehensive immigration reform. >> looks like we might pass it. >> we have a great column about how the father of the ucla basketball star has molded his career. >> go georgetown hoyas. change our history.

that's it four this edition of "the daily rundown." we'll see you on monday. coming up it's chris jansen and company. areas like topeka are going to get snow. you could be dealing with a snowy sunday. and while that leaves a little room for balls and tees, it doesn't leave room for much else. there's no room left for deadlines or conference calls.